Developed after Tropical Storm Allison in 2001, the Harris County Flood Control District Flood Education Mapping Tool’s purpose was to help Harris County residents learn the location of their properties in relation to mapped 1-percent (100-year), 0.2-percent (500-year) and coastal floodplains. The Flood Education Mapping Tool includes regularly-updated floodplain information from the Flood Insurance Rate Maps (FIRMs) for Harris County, interactive legend options, a simple map display and easy map navigation.
Easy to Use
The tool itself is easy to use and navigate. Click on Floodplains; it will show you the extent of various floodplains. Click on Backgrounds; choose the one you want. And click on Channels; it will highlight all channels in Harris County and show you their numeric IDs. The last is very useful in helping the District locate a problem you’re reporting.
Unique Ponding Feature
But the Flood Education Mapping Tool contains another feature I have found nowhere else: the Ponding button. Click on it; low areas susceptible to ponding during heavy rains will highlight in shades of reddish brown.
HCFCD’s Mapping Tool contains “ponding” feature that that shows low areas that collect water during heavy rains.Shown above, the Deerbrook Mall area in Humble.
Ponding is the collection of stormwater on streets or on undeveloped land that typically forms when rainfall exceeds the design capacity of a street’s drainage system or the land’s ability to drain. The shade of red indicates the depth of the water. Dark red indicates deep ponding and light red indicates shallow ponding – very helpful when evaluating a home purchase.
Basic Flood Education All on One Page of FAQs
The Flood Education Mapping Tool also contains a treasure trove of useful FAQs. The Flood Control District has broken them down into four main categories:
If you want a basic flood education on a page, this is the page for you. It will help you converse knowledgeably with a flood-insurance or real-estate agent.
This page of FAQs is extremely well written, concise, and easy to understand. Most answers also contain links to other helpful, related sites. So you can drill down into most topics as deeply as you wish.
I’ve listed Harris County Flood Control District’s Flood Education Mapping Tool on the Links page of this web site under Floodplain Maps and Elevation, so you can find it easily in the future.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 8/30/2020
1097 Days since Hurricane Harvey
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Because of low interest rates, new developments seem to pop up weekly around the Lake Houston Area. The question often arises, “How will the development of new flood maps affect the development of new subdivisions?” Most people by now have heard that City building code revisions now require elevation at least two feet above the .02-percent-annual-chance flood (formerly known as 500-year flood). But does that mean two feet above the old floodplain or the new? Due to a little-known provision in the City’s floodplain regulations, it means the new floodplain even though the new floodplain maps are not official yet.
Here’s what you need to know if you’re concerned that someone may be building future buyouts next to your neighborhood. First the timetable for new flood maps.
Remaining timetable for new Harris County Flood Maps
Even though FEMA won’t release the new flood maps officially for approximately another five years, developers should still be building to the higher standards associated with newly acquired data (in other words, the data on which the new maps are being built). See below.
Floodplain Regs Authorize City Engineer to Use Data Behind New Flood Maps
Section 19-4 of the City’s Floodplain regulations address Use of other flood hazard data to supplement the effective Flood Insurance Rate Map (FIRM). It states, “New elevation and flooding studies are undertaken by or under the auspices of FEMA and local political subdivisions, such as the Harris County Flood Control District. Upon determination that the data generated by such a study appears to be reliable and based upon sound engineering and surveying practices and further that the study’s data indicate that the effective FIRMs are FIRM is materially inaccurate, the city engineer may cause the study data to be administered for purposes of this chapter as though it were a part of the effective FIRM. Any such determination shall be issued in writing and a copy shall be placed on file in the office of the city secretary. The city engineer is authorized to utilize updated information from FIS and floodplain models in administering this chapter.”
Basically, that means even though the new maps have not yet been adopted, the City Engineer can require developers’ plans to reflect the new underlying data as though it were part of the current map. In this case, the new underlying data is already in hand.
MaapNext Website Describes New Data Improvements
Current floodplain maps will change greatly according to Harris County Flood Control. The district has already started releasing information on a new website called MaapNext (Modeling, Assessment and Awareness Project).
Components of the MaapNext program. A $3.5 million FEMA grant made MaapNext possible.
According to the MaapNext site, we now have updated data based on:
County-wide impervious data developed from 2018 aerial imagery
Completed flood risk reduction projects
NOAA’s recently-released Atlas 14
Updated terrain data
We also have new and better ways to model that data since the last survey after TS Allison:
2-Dimensional Hydraulic Modeling
New hydrology method that better accounts for a watershed’s conveyance capacity
Rain-on-Grid analysis that identifies previously unmapped urban flood risk.
And, we are beginning to develop better maps:
Modeling results in GIS (Geographic Information Systems)
New flood-risk data sets describe results in a variety of useful ways
Reportedly, the City is already requiring developers to act on the new “best available data” instead of waiting five years for the next maps.
Chapter 19 of the City Ordinances deals with dozens of other requirements for building in floodplains. But more on those in future posts.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 8/29/2020
1096 Days (Three Years) since Hurricane Harvey
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In the Harris County Commissioners Court meeting on 8/25/2020, Commissioners again considered the purchase of Woodridge Village from Perry Homes – at least one small aspect of it that would have allowed them to lock in the price while other details are worked out.
For months, the County has considered purchasing the property to create a regional flood detention facility along Taylor Gully. On Tuesday, County Engineer John Blount placed an item on the agenda requesting that Commissioners declare the purchase of the property north of Elm Grove a “public necessity.”
The declaration is a procedural formality that would allow the county to enter into an earnest money contract to lock in the price. The terms of the contract, however, would not have obligated the county to write a check until all conditions placed on the sale had been dealt with satisfactorily. After a half hour of debate, the Court took no action.
Ellis Goes On Attack Again
Once again, Commissioner Rodney Ellis used the opportunity to try to add two new conditions to the purchase. In the process, he exaggerated the cost of the deal and misrepresented the substance of previous votes.
The proposed new conditions were that the City should pay for half of any new lawsuits arising from the property and that the City should pay for half of the maintenance costs.
The following timecodes are approximate. This is a summary, not a transcript. These portions of the 30-minute discussion stood out because of their importance or inconsistencies.
“Recommendation that the court find a public necessity exists for the Flood Control District to purchase Tracts G503-06-00-01-001.0 and G503-06-00-01-002.0 in Montgomery County from Figure Four Partners, Ltd., in the amount of $14,019,316 plus closing costs for the Woodridge Village stormwater detention basin, and that the Real Property Division Manager or Assistant Division Manager be authorized to sign any agreements or closing documents associated with this transaction.”
Ellis Leads Off Discussion With Leading Questions
2:01:12: Commissioner Ellis says “Judge, I have a few questions…” and the debate begins. As usual, Mr. Ellis begins by asking leading questions. And the answers are usually obvious. On this day he asked whether the purchase would lead to increased maintenance costs.
2:01:40: Russ Poppe, executive director of the Flood Control District replies, “Yes.”
2:01:50: Ellis asks how much the District’s maintenance budget would decrease should the county adopt a “no-new-revenue” tax rate for next year.
2:02:10: Poppe says that he has seen spreadsheets [which have not been made public] that indicate reductions to operations and maintenance budgets could begin next year, but he doesn’t mention a percentage.
2:02:37: Ellis says, “So the costs will go up” and “…It will be a significant increase.” [Editor’s note: the amount of the increase was never mentioned. You need to be a fast listener when Ellis has the floor.] “So my question is, ‘Why would the district proceed with construction of mitigation assets if we don’t know if we may be unable to maintain them?
Would it make more sense – if we adopt the no-new-revenue rate – to pause third and fourth quartile bond projects until revenue is sufficient to maintain?
Rodney Ellis
[Editor’s Note: by accelerating projects in LMI and SVI neighborhoods, Ellis has delayed projects, such as this one, in other precincts.]
Ellis continues. “Why will we keep starting more projects and we have no idea how we’re going to maintain them?” [Editor’s Note: He does not ask the same question of projects in his precinct.]
2:03:27: Poppe replies, “You bring up a concern that I had, too, Commissioner. Because I know our funding is going to have to increase in order for us to take care of all this infrastructure to the level that our residents are going to expect us to make sure that it functions when we need it to function.”
Confusion over Previous Conditions
2:03:40: Ellis asks Blount or Poppe to restate the conditions previously imposed on the deal that should have preceded the County moving forward with the project. [Editor’s note: I submitted a FOIA request to the County asking for the exact text of that motion, approved in open court. The County denied the request. I appealed. The County submitted it to the State Attorney General’s office for review. The attorney general has not yet ruled on the issue.]
2:04:10: Poppe starts his reply by talking about the demand for half the purchase price. “The city has indicated they do not have the cash available to make up their half of the contribution to acquire the site, which is around 14 million dollars. And the city has indicated that they would rather transfer land assets in the value of at least half of the purchase price to us for use as flood-risk reduction projects. That was condition number one.”
“Condition number two was that the City of Houston adopt updated detention and mitigation rates commensurate with the Atlas-14 rainfall rates. And that was both to be adopted inside not only their city of Houston limits, but also their ETJ.”
“And then the third…”
2:04:45 Ellis interrupts. “And have they done that?”
Precinct 1 Commissioner Rodney Ellis
2:04:50: Poppe replies, “No, there’s an ongoing task force or work group for which I think John’s office (County Engineer) and my office both have people who sit in and contribute to those conversations. But no, they have not adopted increased mitigation requirements yet.”
“And then the last piece that has to occur, Commissioner, is we have to execute an inter-local agreement that addresses those issues I just mentioned, as well as other details, as one might imagine, come up as you start developing a site of this magnitude.”
Ellis Reminds Poppe about Getting City to Pay for Half of Construction
2:05:17: Ellis, referring to a second motion to include construction costs in the City’s half of the deal, asks, “And wasn’t that talk about paying for half the cost to do something with it? I thought that was in the motion. And also paying for half the cost in the event there’s a lawsuit … and … a commitment to pay for half of what it takes to maintain?” (Editor’s note: Paying for half the construction costs was in a previous motion. But the motion did NOT include the City paying for half of legal or maintenance costs.)
2:05:54: Poppe replies. “Yes, Commissioner, those were all issues we’ve talked about, but I don’t believe those were actually directed by court. I know that’s your intention and I want to get those issues addressed with the City as part of our inter-local agreement, too, because those are real costs.”
2:06:54: Hidalgo incorrectly states that Ellis’ additional requirements WERE part of previous motions. “And they WERE, Russ. I remember this is about the fourth time we’re going back over what we agreed. Maybe someone ought to just go back and listen to the transcript and send it around, because as I remember, it was that half of both the purchase and whatever happens and then the detention requirements and there could be assets of land. But we’ve had the same discussion quite a few times. I think in the end we agreed.” (Editor’s note: this contradiction may have something to do with why the FOIA request was denied and appealed to the State AG.)
2:07:45: After a long diatribe about how the City can’t be trusted, Ellis states that he can’t support the deal unless there’s an inter-local agreement that specifies objectives IN WRITING. (Editor’s note: Ellis previously insisted that an inter-local agreement was worthless and that the City had to actually comply with all County demands BEFORE the County moved forward.)
Ellis then worries that there won’t be enough money to complete projects in his district.
Ellis Likens Project to Buying Brooklyn Bridge
2:16:46: Ellis likens the Woodridge Village project to acquiring the Brooklyn Bridge.
2:17:00 Poppe explains that the County provided an inter-local agreement to the City that addresses all the issues under discussion.
“We are still waiting to hear back from them to actually sit down and have a negotiation meeting to make sure that they’re on the same page as us with those initial concepts and the inter-local agreement.”
Russ Poppe, Exec Director, HCFCD
2:17:38: Hidalgo says, “So we can take no action on this item?”
County Attorney’s Office and Cagle Clarify Earnest Money Contract
2:18:43: Robert Soard from the County Attorney’s Office clarifies the purpose of the earnest money contract. It:
Commits the seller to the price.
Gives the County 120 days to work out an inter-local agreement with the City.
Specifically says the inter-local agreement has to be approved by Commissioners Court before the court has to buy the property.
2:24:05: Commissioner Jack Cagle says, “This is not nearly as complicated as we’re trying to make it. We have people in Harris County that are at risk of flooding because of the property that’s upstream. We have a chance to lock in a very good price to be able to acquire property to help people that live in Harris County.”
“Understand that we have all the criteria that have been added to the initial idea. And the ball has moved a little bit since our very first meeting. But with all of that in place, to be able to at least lock in the price – as opposed to letting that price float with someone on the other side who is trying to decide what they want to do – I think is a reasonable thing.”
“And if we can’t meet the three criteria or the five criteria or the seven criteria that might come down the pike, then we don’t meet those. But at least let’s give ourselves a locked-in price and a set of targets to move towards. These are people in Harris County that we’re trying to help in times when they’re concerned with things that are coming in to our area with regard to water – tropical storms, hurricanes, flooding.”
Ellis Drops New Bomb; Commissioners Take No Action
2:25:40: Ellis says that he won’t support the declaration of necessity because it raises “false hope that we’re going to do it,” meaning purchase the property. He also says, “And the city is telling us that they are not going to make a decision on those policy matters [Atlas-14 implementation], but they would like us to commit to this 50 to 70 million dollars.” During this part of the discussion, Ellis doubles previous estimates and ignores the fact that the City would be paying for half, but no one corrects him. He couples the Woodridge-Village purchase with setting the tax rate, as if he’s getting ready to blame a tax increase on Elm Grove.
And then he drops the big one. He admits, “those people who have gotten water in neighborhoods where there were no equity standards will be left out.”
Rodney Ellis, Harris County PRECINCT 1 COMMISSIONER
The reference to equity has to do with the application of poverty standards to the prioritization of bond funds. He explicitly states that if your neighborhood doesn’t meet LMI or SVI criteria – his definition of equity – you won’t benefit from the $2.5 billion bond fund.
The discussion ended shortly thereafter.
Commissioners decided to take no action and defer the motion to a later date.
Again, please don’t just accept my summary of Tuesday’s meeting; view the video yourself. The discussion was rambling, disjointed, and filled with “memory lapses.” But I believe this summary captures the main points.
Breaking a Golden Rule of Conflict Negotiation
It’s clear from Cagle’s cynical comment about the three, five, or seven conditions, that he despairs this deal will ever be finalized. Every time it comes up, Ellis tries to add more conditions. Most distressing is the fact that he’s also trying to redefine motions that the Court previously agreed to. And that the county refuses to produce the text of after a valid FOIA request.
Harris County Commissioners Court has a real transparency issue.
Ellis is diverting money to projects in his district with new conditions that evolve in each meeting.
A golden rule of conflict resolution states that if you agree to a deal three times and someone still keeps trying to add conditions, you should disengage. That person is just not being honest with you.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 8/27/2020
1094 Days since Hurricane Harvey and 343 since Imelda
The thoughts expressed in this post represent opinions on matters of public concern and safety. They are protected by the First Amendment of the US Constitution and the Anti-SLAPP Statute of the Great State of Texas.
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HCFCD Flood Education Mapping Tool Contains Features Found Nowhere Else, Plus Basic Flood Education on One Page
Developed after Tropical Storm Allison in 2001, the Harris County Flood Control District Flood Education Mapping Tool’s purpose was to help Harris County residents learn the location of their properties in relation to mapped 1-percent (100-year), 0.2-percent (500-year) and coastal floodplains. The Flood Education Mapping Tool includes regularly-updated floodplain information from the Flood Insurance Rate Maps (FIRMs) for Harris County, interactive legend options, a simple map display and easy map navigation.
Easy to Use
The tool itself is easy to use and navigate. Click on Floodplains; it will show you the extent of various floodplains. Click on Backgrounds; choose the one you want. And click on Channels; it will highlight all channels in Harris County and show you their numeric IDs. The last is very useful in helping the District locate a problem you’re reporting.
Unique Ponding Feature
Ponding is the collection of stormwater on streets or on undeveloped land that typically forms when rainfall exceeds the design capacity of a street’s drainage system or the land’s ability to drain. The shade of red indicates the depth of the water. Dark red indicates deep ponding and light red indicates shallow ponding – very helpful when evaluating a home purchase.
Basic Flood Education All on One Page of FAQs
The Flood Education Mapping Tool also contains a treasure trove of useful FAQs. The Flood Control District has broken them down into four main categories:
Flood Insurance Rate Maps
• What is a Flood Insurance Rate Map and how do I use it?
Floodplains and Floodways:
• What is a floodplain? / What is a floodway?
• What is a 1 percent (100-year) flood/floodplain? / What are my chances of flooding in a 1 percent (100-year) floodplain?
• What is a 0.2 percent (500-year) flood/floodplain? / What are my chances of flooding in a 0.2 percent (500-year) floodplain?
• What is a coastal floodplain?
• What is a Special Flood Hazard Area?
• What is meant by Base Flood Elevation?
• Who determines the boundaries of a floodplain? / What data is used to create a Flood Insurance Rate Map?
Floodplain Status/Floodplain Determination:
• Is my home located in a mapped floodplain? / Which mapped floodplain is my home in? / How do I get an official floodplain determination?
• What is an Elevation Certificate? / What is a Letter of Map Amendment? / What is a Letter of Map Revision?
• The Flood Insurance Rate Map shows that my lot is in a mapped 1 percent (100-year) floodplain, but my house sits on higher ground/is raised on pier and beam construction/is elevated. Do I still need flood insurance? / Can I obtain cheaper flood insurance?
• My home is not in a mapped 1 percent (100-year), 0.2 percent (500-year) or coastal floodplain. Does this mean I am not at risk for flooding?
• The Harris County Flood Control District is constructing a project on a bayou in my neighborhood. Will my home be out of the floodplain when it’s complete?
Flood Insurance
• Does standard homeowners insurance cover losses and damages from flooding?
• Am I required to have flood insurance? / Do I still need flood insurance if I live outside a mapped 1 percent (100-year) floodplain?
• If my home floods, will federal disaster assistance pay for all of my damages?
• Is damage from wind-driven rain or rain that comes through my roof covered by my flood insurance policy?
• How can I obtain flood insurance?
• How much does flood insurance cost? / Why is my flood insurance so expensive?
• Can I get flood insurance if I rent?
This page of FAQs is extremely well written, concise, and easy to understand. Most answers also contain links to other helpful, related sites. So you can drill down into most topics as deeply as you wish.
I’ve listed Harris County Flood Control District’s Flood Education Mapping Tool on the Links page of this web site under Floodplain Maps and Elevation, so you can find it easily in the future.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 8/30/2020
1097 Days since Hurricane Harvey
New Flood-Map Timetable and How It Affects New Development
Because of low interest rates, new developments seem to pop up weekly around the Lake Houston Area. The question often arises, “How will the development of new flood maps affect the development of new subdivisions?” Most people by now have heard that City building code revisions now require elevation at least two feet above the .02-percent-annual-chance flood (formerly known as 500-year flood). But does that mean two feet above the old floodplain or the new? Due to a little-known provision in the City’s floodplain regulations, it means the new floodplain even though the new floodplain maps are not official yet.
Timetable for Updating Flood Maps
Here’s what you need to know if you’re concerned that someone may be building future buyouts next to your neighborhood. First the timetable for new flood maps.
Even though FEMA won’t release the new flood maps officially for approximately another five years, developers should still be building to the higher standards associated with newly acquired data (in other words, the data on which the new maps are being built). See below.
Floodplain Regs Authorize City Engineer to Use Data Behind New Flood Maps
Section 19-4 of the City’s Floodplain regulations address Use of other flood hazard data to supplement the effective Flood Insurance Rate Map (FIRM). It states, “New elevation and flooding studies are undertaken by or under the auspices of FEMA and local political subdivisions, such as the Harris County Flood Control District. Upon determination that the data generated by such a study appears to be reliable and based upon sound engineering and surveying practices and further that the study’s data indicate that the effective FIRMs are FIRM is materially inaccurate, the city engineer may cause the study data to be administered for purposes of this chapter as though it were a part of the effective FIRM. Any such determination shall be issued in writing and a copy shall be placed on file in the office of the city secretary. The city engineer is authorized to utilize updated information from FIS and floodplain models in administering this chapter.”
Basically, that means even though the new maps have not yet been adopted, the City Engineer can require developers’ plans to reflect the new underlying data as though it were part of the current map. In this case, the new underlying data is already in hand.
MaapNext Website Describes New Data Improvements
Current floodplain maps will change greatly according to Harris County Flood Control. The district has already started releasing information on a new website called MaapNext (Modeling, Assessment and Awareness Project).
According to the MaapNext site, we now have updated data based on:
We also have new and better ways to model that data since the last survey after TS Allison:
And, we are beginning to develop better maps:
Reportedly, the City is already requiring developers to act on the new “best available data” instead of waiting five years for the next maps.
Chapter 19 of the City Ordinances deals with dozens of other requirements for building in floodplains. But more on those in future posts.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 8/29/2020
1096 Days (Three Years) since Hurricane Harvey
The thoughts expressed in this post represent opinions on matters of public concern and safety. They are protected by the First Amendment of the US Constitution and the Anti-SLAPP Statute of the Great State of Texas.
Commissioner Ellis Tries to Add New Conditions to Woodridge Deal – Yet Again
In the Harris County Commissioners Court meeting on 8/25/2020, Commissioners again considered the purchase of Woodridge Village from Perry Homes – at least one small aspect of it that would have allowed them to lock in the price while other details are worked out.
For months, the County has considered purchasing the property to create a regional flood detention facility along Taylor Gully. On Tuesday, County Engineer John Blount placed an item on the agenda requesting that Commissioners declare the purchase of the property north of Elm Grove a “public necessity.”
The declaration is a procedural formality that would allow the county to enter into an earnest money contract to lock in the price. The terms of the contract, however, would not have obligated the county to write a check until all conditions placed on the sale had been dealt with satisfactorily. After a half hour of debate, the Court took no action.
Ellis Goes On Attack Again
Once again, Commissioner Rodney Ellis used the opportunity to try to add two new conditions to the purchase. In the process, he exaggerated the cost of the deal and misrepresented the substance of previous votes.
You can view the thirty minute discussion in the video of the meeting. Click on Departments (Part 2 of 2). Then advance to about 2:00:45 as Mr. Blount introduces Item 1T on the agenda.
Ellis’ Concerns
Ellis starts out by openly worrying that new assets would require additional funds for maintenance and operations. He also worries about:
Previously, Commissioner Ellis introduced motions to make the City:
Highlights of Discussion
The following timecodes are approximate. This is a summary, not a transcript. These portions of the 30-minute discussion stood out because of their importance or inconsistencies.
2:00:45 County Engineer John Blount introduces Item 1T on page 4 of the agenda. It reads:
“Recommendation that the court find a public necessity exists for the Flood Control District to purchase Tracts G503-06-00-01-001.0 and G503-06-00-01-002.0 in Montgomery County from Figure Four Partners, Ltd., in the amount of $14,019,316 plus closing costs for the Woodridge Village stormwater detention basin, and that the Real Property Division Manager or Assistant Division Manager be authorized to sign any agreements or closing documents associated with this transaction.”
Ellis Leads Off Discussion With Leading Questions
2:01:12: Commissioner Ellis says “Judge, I have a few questions…” and the debate begins. As usual, Mr. Ellis begins by asking leading questions. And the answers are usually obvious. On this day he asked whether the purchase would lead to increased maintenance costs.
2:01:40: Russ Poppe, executive director of the Flood Control District replies, “Yes.”
2:01:50: Ellis asks how much the District’s maintenance budget would decrease should the county adopt a “no-new-revenue” tax rate for next year.
2:02:10: Poppe says that he has seen spreadsheets [which have not been made public] that indicate reductions to operations and maintenance budgets could begin next year, but he doesn’t mention a percentage.
2:02:37: Ellis says, “So the costs will go up” and “…It will be a significant increase.” [Editor’s note: the amount of the increase was never mentioned. You need to be a fast listener when Ellis has the floor.] “So my question is, ‘Why would the district proceed with construction of mitigation assets if we don’t know if we may be unable to maintain them?
[Editor’s Note: by accelerating projects in LMI and SVI neighborhoods, Ellis has delayed projects, such as this one, in other precincts.]
Ellis continues. “Why will we keep starting more projects and we have no idea how we’re going to maintain them?” [Editor’s Note: He does not ask the same question of projects in his precinct.]
2:03:27: Poppe replies, “You bring up a concern that I had, too, Commissioner. Because I know our funding is going to have to increase in order for us to take care of all this infrastructure to the level that our residents are going to expect us to make sure that it functions when we need it to function.”
Confusion over Previous Conditions
2:03:40: Ellis asks Blount or Poppe to restate the conditions previously imposed on the deal that should have preceded the County moving forward with the project. [Editor’s note: I submitted a FOIA request to the County asking for the exact text of that motion, approved in open court. The County denied the request. I appealed. The County submitted it to the State Attorney General’s office for review. The attorney general has not yet ruled on the issue.]
2:04:10: Poppe starts his reply by talking about the demand for half the purchase price. “The city has indicated they do not have the cash available to make up their half of the contribution to acquire the site, which is around 14 million dollars. And the city has indicated that they would rather transfer land assets in the value of at least half of the purchase price to us for use as flood-risk reduction projects. That was condition number one.”
“Condition number two was that the City of Houston adopt updated detention and mitigation rates commensurate with the Atlas-14 rainfall rates. And that was both to be adopted inside not only their city of Houston limits, but also their ETJ.”
“And then the third…”
2:04:45 Ellis interrupts. “And have they done that?”
2:04:50: Poppe replies, “No, there’s an ongoing task force or work group for which I think John’s office (County Engineer) and my office both have people who sit in and contribute to those conversations. But no, they have not adopted increased mitigation requirements yet.”
“And then the last piece that has to occur, Commissioner, is we have to execute an inter-local agreement that addresses those issues I just mentioned, as well as other details, as one might imagine, come up as you start developing a site of this magnitude.”
Ellis Reminds Poppe about Getting City to Pay for Half of Construction
2:05:17: Ellis, referring to a second motion to include construction costs in the City’s half of the deal, asks, “And wasn’t that talk about paying for half the cost to do something with it? I thought that was in the motion. And also paying for half the cost in the event there’s a lawsuit … and … a commitment to pay for half of what it takes to maintain?” (Editor’s note: Paying for half the construction costs was in a previous motion. But the motion did NOT include the City paying for half of legal or maintenance costs.)
2:05:54: Poppe replies. “Yes, Commissioner, those were all issues we’ve talked about, but I don’t believe those were actually directed by court. I know that’s your intention and I want to get those issues addressed with the City as part of our inter-local agreement, too, because those are real costs.”
2:06:54: Hidalgo incorrectly states that Ellis’ additional requirements WERE part of previous motions. “And they WERE, Russ. I remember this is about the fourth time we’re going back over what we agreed. Maybe someone ought to just go back and listen to the transcript and send it around, because as I remember, it was that half of both the purchase and whatever happens and then the detention requirements and there could be assets of land. But we’ve had the same discussion quite a few times. I think in the end we agreed.” (Editor’s note: this contradiction may have something to do with why the FOIA request was denied and appealed to the State AG.)
2:07:45: After a long diatribe about how the City can’t be trusted, Ellis states that he can’t support the deal unless there’s an inter-local agreement that specifies objectives IN WRITING. (Editor’s note: Ellis previously insisted that an inter-local agreement was worthless and that the City had to actually comply with all County demands BEFORE the County moved forward.)
Ellis Likens Project to Buying Brooklyn Bridge
2:16:46: Ellis likens the Woodridge Village project to acquiring the Brooklyn Bridge.
2:17:00 Poppe explains that the County provided an inter-local agreement to the City that addresses all the issues under discussion.
2:17:38: Hidalgo says, “So we can take no action on this item?”
County Attorney’s Office and Cagle Clarify Earnest Money Contract
2:18:43: Robert Soard from the County Attorney’s Office clarifies the purpose of the earnest money contract. It:
2:24:05: Commissioner Jack Cagle says, “This is not nearly as complicated as we’re trying to make it. We have people in Harris County that are at risk of flooding because of the property that’s upstream. We have a chance to lock in a very good price to be able to acquire property to help people that live in Harris County.”
“Understand that we have all the criteria that have been added to the initial idea. And the ball has moved a little bit since our very first meeting. But with all of that in place, to be able to at least lock in the price – as opposed to letting that price float with someone on the other side who is trying to decide what they want to do – I think is a reasonable thing.”
“And if we can’t meet the three criteria or the five criteria or the seven criteria that might come down the pike, then we don’t meet those. But at least let’s give ourselves a locked-in price and a set of targets to move towards. These are people in Harris County that we’re trying to help in times when they’re concerned with things that are coming in to our area with regard to water – tropical storms, hurricanes, flooding.”
Ellis Drops New Bomb; Commissioners Take No Action
2:25:40: Ellis says that he won’t support the declaration of necessity because it raises “false hope that we’re going to do it,” meaning purchase the property. He also says, “And the city is telling us that they are not going to make a decision on those policy matters [Atlas-14 implementation], but they would like us to commit to this 50 to 70 million dollars.” During this part of the discussion, Ellis doubles previous estimates and ignores the fact that the City would be paying for half, but no one corrects him. He couples the Woodridge-Village purchase with setting the tax rate, as if he’s getting ready to blame a tax increase on Elm Grove.
The reference to equity has to do with the application of poverty standards to the prioritization of bond funds. He explicitly states that if your neighborhood doesn’t meet LMI or SVI criteria – his definition of equity – you won’t benefit from the $2.5 billion bond fund.
The discussion ended shortly thereafter.
Again, please don’t just accept my summary of Tuesday’s meeting; view the video yourself. The discussion was rambling, disjointed, and filled with “memory lapses.” But I believe this summary captures the main points.
Breaking a Golden Rule of Conflict Negotiation
It’s clear from Cagle’s cynical comment about the three, five, or seven conditions, that he despairs this deal will ever be finalized. Every time it comes up, Ellis tries to add more conditions. Most distressing is the fact that he’s also trying to redefine motions that the Court previously agreed to. And that the county refuses to produce the text of after a valid FOIA request.
Ellis is diverting money to projects in his district with new conditions that evolve in each meeting.
A golden rule of conflict resolution states that if you agree to a deal three times and someone still keeps trying to add conditions, you should disengage. That person is just not being honest with you.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 8/27/2020
1094 Days since Hurricane Harvey and 343 since Imelda
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