Below are aerial images from two new developments under construction. They show two detention ponds in two different counties. Can you tell which is in Montgomery County and which is in Harris County? I took both photos on the same day, 2/13/2020.
Detention Pond ADetention Pond B
Clue
Look where the grass has established itself:
In A, the land was cleared before the detention pond was completed.
In B, the detention pond was completed before the land was cleared.
And the Answer Is…
If you guessed that Pond A is in Montgomery County, you guessed correctly. Pond A is in Woodridge Village, just north of Sherwood Trails and Elm Grove. It is their S1 detention pond (first southern).
Pond B is in Harris County just north of Bush Intercontinental Airport and Mercer Botanic Gardens.
How You Can Tell
Montgomery County does not require developers to install detention ponds before they clearcut the whole development. So they sometimes come long AFTER clearcutting.
Also, even though Page 44 of Montgomery County’s Drainage Criteria Manual says that “slopes must be revegetated immediately after construction to minimize erosion,” no one apparently enforces the regulation. The sides of Pond A have gone without grass for about a year. See close up below.
Erosion on the sides of Pond A shown above, the Woodridge Village S1 detention pond.
All 268 acres of Woodridge Village have been clearcut for the better part of a year. Meanwhile Perry Homes and its engineering firm LJA are just now taking bids on additional detention ponds for the northern section. And the sides of Pond A still have yet to sprout grass.
Harris County Regs Differ
Note in the Pond B photo how the sides of the channel have been stabilized with grass before the developer has even finished clearing the land.
Harris County employs low-impact development procedures (LID). Harris County Stormwater Quality Management regulations discourage clearcutting giant sites like Woodridge Village all at once. See section 4.2.3.1, Stormwater Pollution Prevention (SWPPP) During Construction.
The text states, “The clearing, grubbing and scalping (mass clearing or grading) of excessively large areas of land at one time promotes erosion and sedimentation problems. On the areas where disturbance takes place the site designer should consider staging construction [emphasis added], temporary seeding and/or temporary mulching as a technique to reduce erosion. Staging construction involves stabilizing one part of the site before disturbing another [emphasis added].”
Two Different Approaches
You would think that preventing erosion would be cheaper than cleaning it up. Why do a job once when you can do it twice? Right?
Close up of remediation work in Pond A, from a slightly different angle.Photo taken 2/13/2020.
Evidently, Perry Homes prefers it that way. Last Thursday, I spotted men digging out the pilot channel of Pond A and restoring slopes…again. This was at least the third or fourth time. No wonder those Perry Homes are so expensive.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 2/16/2020
901 Days After Hurricane Harvey and 150 after Imelda
The thoughts expressed in this post represent opinions on matters of public concern and safety. They are protected by the First Amendment of the US Constitution and the Anti-SLAPP Statute of the Great State of Texas.
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Q: When is a detention pond not a detention pond? A: When it’s just a wide spot on a stream.
The defining characteristic of a detention pond is an “outfall” smaller than the inlet. The pond holds back rain in a storm and releases it later at an acceptable rate. This reduces downstream flooding.
From the Montgomery County Drainage Criterial Manual
That’s the theory, at least. In practice, sometimes things don’t always work out that way. It often depends on maintenance.
This week, I discovered that a second pond immediately upstream also apparently has an unrestricted outfall.
Two tributaries of Ben’s Branch come together in the foreground pond. The pond also collects runoff from surrounding commercial and residential areas.Photo taken 2/13/2020.Water flows toward exit in upper right.Photo taken 2/13/2020.Note height and width of exit.Photo taken 2/13/2020.
The low area in the picture above measures more than 200 feet wide in Google Earth. That’s far wider than the combined inlets. Net: this pond provides little if any detention capability.
Same Problem with Second Pond
Neither does pond beyond it that I highlighted last week provide much detention capacity.
Note how Ben’s Branch flows both through and around the next pond. Direction of flow is from bottom to top of frame.Photo taken 2/13/2020.Reverse angle looking NW. Direction of flow is now toward camera.Note how the outfall (foreground) is larger than the inlet. Also note how runoff from residential streets (upper right) is channeled outside the pond. Photo taken 2/13/2020.
Both Ponds Provide Little Detention Benefit, If Any
Both of these ponds provide little detention benefit, if any.
Neither pond has a maintenance road around it, even though Section 7.2.8 of the Montgomery County Drainage Criteria Manual specifies that “A 30-foot wide access and maintenance easement shall be provided around the entire detention pond.”
Sometimes, what looks like a detention pond is really just a pond. Or a wide spot in a stream.
Recent Surge in Downstream Flooding
During the May 7th and Imelda floods in 2019, water flowing through these ponds then flowed over Northpark Drive and flooded homes in North Woodland Hills. It also flooded numerous homes and businesses downstream on Ben’s Branch between Woodland Hills Drive and the San Jacinto River West Fork.
One wonders whether those damages could have been averted if the ponds had detained water.
As Harris County Flood Control conducts the Kingwood Area Drainage Study, engineers must consider the possibility that this area may be dumping more water downstream than planned.
The Woodridge Municipal Utility District apparently is responsible for these ponds.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 2/16/2020
901 Days after Hurricane Harvey and 150 after Imelda
The thoughts expressed in this post represent opinions on matters of public concern and safety. They are protected by the First Amendment of the US Constitution and the Anti-SLAPP Statute of the Great State of Texas.
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But instead of deepening the channel, the next phase of dredging seems aimed at reducing the mouth bar itself.
Progress to Date in Reducing Mouth Bar
Aerial photos taken on 2/13/2020, show that to date DRC has removed most vegetation from the bar. They have also reduced the crown of the bar and flattened it to create a platform for excavator(s) that’s little more than a foot or so above the water. Parts of the bar used to stand four to five feet above water.
While two excavators worked on the scalping process Thursday, a third took bites from the edge of the bar, much like a human might nibble away at an ear of corn, row by row.
On Thursday, 2/13/2020, three excavators worked various portions of the mouth bar.Two were still leveling the bar and removing vegetation while a third whittled down the edges of the bar. The excavator near the water appears to be walking backward as it pulls sediment from in front of it and dumps it on the waiting pontoon.When the pontoon is full, a small tug pushes it upstream.
Placement Area for Sediment
Tugs push the pontoons upstream to Berry Madden’s property on the south side of the West Fork, just upstream from Kings Lake Estates, roughly opposite River Grove Park.
…through the back channels of the West Fork to Berry Madden’s property, the placement area. Photo courtesy of Josh Alberson.At Madden’s property, the sediment is offloaded.Photo courtesy of Josh Alberson.The tug will then take a pontoon back downstream for the next load.The sediment will then get loaded into dump trucks……and carried away from the river.
From the number of trucks on Madden’s property, it appears that DRC is using it as its command post for the operation.
Bulldozers then compact the dirt and spread it out.
Operational Tempo Expected to Increase
Josh Alberson, a local boater, monitors the dredging program. He says that the cycle time per pontoon load has decreased from roughly three hours to about two hours and twenty minutes.
Berry Madden, the placement area owner, says DRC has told him that it expects to add more equipment to the job by next week. That should increase the operational tempo and the volume of sediment transported each day.
Madden’s property is also permitted to receive spoils from hydraulic dredging.
The Harris County Engineering Department is managing this project with the City of Houston.
Next Steps Still Unclear
The Harris County Engineers office has not yet released plans for the remainder of the project. Several things remain unclear at this point. Key among them:
Why remove the mouth bar instead of deepening the channel in front of it?
Will the operation switch over to hydraulic dredging to speed up the project and reduce the flood-risk window?
What will the next steps be after completion of the West Fork?
Have the partners agreed on a maintenance dredging program?
The grant request submitted by the County to the TWDB indicates that the team also expects to tackle the rapidly growing East Fork mouth bar. During Imelda, boaters say the channel north of Luce Bayou silted in badly. It went from 18 feet deep to approximately 3 at the deepest point, they say.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 2/15/2020 with photos from Josh Alberson
900 days after Hurricane Harvey
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Detention Pond Construction: Montgomery vs. Harris County
Below are aerial images from two new developments under construction. They show two detention ponds in two different counties. Can you tell which is in Montgomery County and which is in Harris County? I took both photos on the same day, 2/13/2020.
Clue
Look where the grass has established itself:
And the Answer Is…
If you guessed that Pond A is in Montgomery County, you guessed correctly. Pond A is in Woodridge Village, just north of Sherwood Trails and Elm Grove. It is their S1 detention pond (first southern).
Pond B is in Harris County just north of Bush Intercontinental Airport and Mercer Botanic Gardens.
How You Can Tell
Montgomery County does not require developers to install detention ponds before they clearcut the whole development. So they sometimes come long AFTER clearcutting.
Also, even though Page 44 of Montgomery County’s Drainage Criteria Manual says that “slopes must be revegetated immediately after construction to minimize erosion,” no one apparently enforces the regulation. The sides of Pond A have gone without grass for about a year. See close up below.
All 268 acres of Woodridge Village have been clearcut for the better part of a year. Meanwhile Perry Homes and its engineering firm LJA are just now taking bids on additional detention ponds for the northern section. And the sides of Pond A still have yet to sprout grass.
Harris County Regs Differ
Note in the Pond B photo how the sides of the channel have been stabilized with grass before the developer has even finished clearing the land.
Harris County employs low-impact development procedures (LID). Harris County Stormwater Quality Management regulations discourage clearcutting giant sites like Woodridge Village all at once. See section 4.2.3.1, Stormwater Pollution Prevention (SWPPP) During Construction.
The text states, “The clearing, grubbing and scalping (mass clearing or grading) of excessively large areas of land at one time promotes erosion and sedimentation problems. On the areas where disturbance takes place the site designer should consider staging construction [emphasis added], temporary seeding and/or temporary mulching as a technique to reduce erosion. Staging construction involves stabilizing one part of the site before disturbing another [emphasis added].”
Two Different Approaches
You would think that preventing erosion would be cheaper than cleaning it up. Why do a job once when you can do it twice? Right?
Evidently, Perry Homes prefers it that way. Last Thursday, I spotted men digging out the pilot channel of Pond A and restoring slopes…again. This was at least the third or fourth time. No wonder those Perry Homes are so expensive.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 2/16/2020
901 Days After Hurricane Harvey and 150 after Imelda
The thoughts expressed in this post represent opinions on matters of public concern and safety. They are protected by the First Amendment of the US Constitution and the Anti-SLAPP Statute of the Great State of Texas.
Part II: When Is A Detention Pond Not A Detention Pond?
Q: When is a detention pond not a detention pond?
A: When it’s just a wide spot on a stream.
The defining characteristic of a detention pond is an “outfall” smaller than the inlet. The pond holds back rain in a storm and releases it later at an acceptable rate. This reduces downstream flooding.
That’s the theory, at least. In practice, sometimes things don’t always work out that way. It often depends on maintenance.
Unrestricted Outfalls
On 2/13/2020, I reported on one Woodridge Forest detention pond on Ben’s Branch that had an outfall LARGER than its inlet. Harvey and Imelda blew out the pond’s outfall.
This week, I discovered that a second pond immediately upstream also apparently has an unrestricted outfall.
The low area in the picture above measures more than 200 feet wide in Google Earth. That’s far wider than the combined inlets. Net: this pond provides little if any detention capability.
Same Problem with Second Pond
Neither does pond beyond it that I highlighted last week provide much detention capacity.
Both Ponds Provide Little Detention Benefit, If Any
Both of these ponds provide little detention benefit, if any.
Neither pond has a maintenance road around it, even though Section 7.2.8 of the Montgomery County Drainage Criteria Manual specifies that “A 30-foot wide access and maintenance easement shall be provided around the entire detention pond.”
Recent Surge in Downstream Flooding
During the May 7th and Imelda floods in 2019, water flowing through these ponds then flowed over Northpark Drive and flooded homes in North Woodland Hills. It also flooded numerous homes and businesses downstream on Ben’s Branch between Woodland Hills Drive and the San Jacinto River West Fork.
As Harris County Flood Control conducts the Kingwood Area Drainage Study, engineers must consider the possibility that this area may be dumping more water downstream than planned.
The Woodridge Municipal Utility District apparently is responsible for these ponds.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 2/16/2020
901 Days after Hurricane Harvey and 150 after Imelda
The thoughts expressed in this post represent opinions on matters of public concern and safety. They are protected by the First Amendment of the US Constitution and the Anti-SLAPP Statute of the Great State of Texas.
Take Down: West Fork Mouth Bar
DRC (Disaster Recovery Corporation) excavators are slowly whittling down the mouth bar of the West Fork of the San Jacinto. DRC is picking up where the Army Corps and Great Lakes Dredge and Dock left off around Labor Day last year. The Corps and Great Lakes removed 500,000 cubic yards of sediment. DRC will remove another 400,000 in 8-12 months as part of its contract.
DRC Focus Differs from Corps’ So Far
The Corps effort focused on deepening the channel between the mouth bar and Atascocita Point. DRC’s effort appears to focus on reducing the mouth bar itself.
A survey conducted after the Corps finished in September showed they had reduced the average depth in front of the mouth bar to about 5.5 feet. Local residents including high-level geologists questioned whether that was enough to restore safety. They pointed out that the river upstream of the mouth bar had been dredged to more than 25 feet and worried that the 20 feet difference would partially dam the river during floods and create a backwater effect that contributed to flooding.
Progress to Date in Reducing Mouth Bar
Aerial photos taken on 2/13/2020, show that to date DRC has removed most vegetation from the bar. They have also reduced the crown of the bar and flattened it to create a platform for excavator(s) that’s little more than a foot or so above the water. Parts of the bar used to stand four to five feet above water.
While two excavators worked on the scalping process Thursday, a third took bites from the edge of the bar, much like a human might nibble away at an ear of corn, row by row.
Placement Area for Sediment
Tugs push the pontoons upstream to Berry Madden’s property on the south side of the West Fork, just upstream from Kings Lake Estates, roughly opposite River Grove Park.
From the number of trucks on Madden’s property, it appears that DRC is using it as its command post for the operation.
Operational Tempo Expected to Increase
Josh Alberson, a local boater, monitors the dredging program. He says that the cycle time per pontoon load has decreased from roughly three hours to about two hours and twenty minutes.
Berry Madden, the placement area owner, says DRC has told him that it expects to add more equipment to the job by next week. That should increase the operational tempo and the volume of sediment transported each day.
Madden’s property is also permitted to receive spoils from hydraulic dredging.
The Harris County Engineering Department is managing this project with the City of Houston.
Next Steps Still Unclear
The Harris County Engineers office has not yet released plans for the remainder of the project. Several things remain unclear at this point. Key among them:
The grant request submitted by the County to the TWDB indicates that the team also expects to tackle the rapidly growing East Fork mouth bar. During Imelda, boaters say the channel north of Luce Bayou silted in badly. It went from 18 feet deep to approximately 3 at the deepest point, they say.
Posted by Bob Rehak on 2/15/2020 with photos from Josh Alberson
900 days after Hurricane Harvey